IGL Kenzo Ceramic Coating

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IGL Kenzo Ceramic Coating

Post by JOCK55 » Sat Sep 08, 2018 1:44 am

I do not have the luxury of several detailers to choose from in my part of the world. We have one business that does professional detailing (as opposed to hand washes or Autoglym type applications). Highland Polishing is our sole supplier. I went to see James, the proprietor, the other day to discuss getting a PROTECTIVE coating applied to the new F-Pace. I am not too interested in a glossy shine (I'll never maintain it!), but I do want to protect the paintwork from damage from salt and grit (which is liberally strewn around our roads in Winter) and other environmental contaminants. My previous Range Rover had problems with paintwork and required to be retouched a couple of times. James says that JLR use relatively soft paints compared to the likes of Volvo and Audi.

Any way, he used to be an approved supplier/applier of GTechniq coatings, but has given that up in favour of subject products as he says it gives an equal appearance but a measurably harder finish, which is ideal for our road conditions. However, as he is the only show in town I thought I would throw it out there for comment from "my learned friends", whether anyone has heard of this product and has any comment to make. As an additional query, he has given me an estimate of £750 and 4 days for the work. Does this sound right for this type of application?

Appreciate your thoughts.

Jock
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Re: IGL Kenzo Ceramic Coating

Post by Mbadger77 » Sun Sep 16, 2018 8:57 pm

Heard of it before and meant to be good.
The cost is very good if he spends 4 days on it. I paid double that for a few days correction and getting ready then the coating,
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Re: IGL Kenzo Ceramic Coating

Post by JOCK55 » Sun Sep 16, 2018 10:57 pm

Thanks for your reply Mbadger77, I was beginning to think it was a figment of my imagination!!!!

No, in fact I posed the same question on the RRS forum. They have ten times the membership of this Forum so thought I was more likely to get a response on there. Which I did. Everyone says it's great (as does You Tube!), but still haven't heard from anyone who has actually had it applied to their car!!!

I was pleased with the quote. The Detailer said that paint correction wouldn't take too long as the car is less than 3 weeks old. As for the rest of the time, that's for application of the ceramic coating (has a 12 hour minimum cure time, although he said in our ambient conditions he preferred to leave it for 15 hours). He will also treat all glass areas, inside and out, including the pano roof. Finally, take all the wheels off and treat them inside and out with GTechniq C5 wheel gloss. The £750 he said may end up being £800 and the 4 days could come down to 3 full days, depending on the weather and how many people he has available when he actually does the job.

I am going for it and am booked in on 19th September. I'll write a critique when the work is complete.

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Re: IGL Kenzo Ceramic Coating

Post by JOCK55 » Sun Sep 23, 2018 11:30 pm

Well, I bit the bullet and had the deed done! Collected the car yesterday and am extremely pleased. The paintwork was corrected, wheels removed and coated and glasswork (all including roof) coated. James, the Detailer said that he almost gave up on the preparation as in his words, "I have never seen such a poor finish on a new vehicle....... ever! Apparently the prep took him 8 hours longer than anticipated!!! However, he was a man of his word and did not charge any extra for his additional work.

You can judge for yourself the finished product.

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Re: IGL Kenzo Ceramic Coating

Post by Smitten » Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:27 am

Looks absolutely stunning. You must be delighted. Interesting comment about the original paintwork condition. Was that damage caused by the dealer or at the factory I wonder...dealer most likely. I have heard that Jaguar use relatively soft paint finishes compared to German and Swedish car makers so perhaps this is the issue.
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Re: IGL Kenzo Ceramic Coating

Post by catwoman » Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:56 am

Jock-TASTIC !!!! :D
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Re: IGL Kenzo Ceramic Coating

Post by MRB » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:43 am

"I have never seen such a poor finish on a new vehicle....... ever!" Really???

He would say that wouldn't he your the poor sucker paying £800 to have your car polished!

Sorry mate but if you really believe that a liquid from a bottle is going to seriously protect your paintwork you are mistaken. A good machine buffing and a coat of Swiss wax or similar would have been just as good if not better and the price certainly no more that £150 and possibly another £50 for the removal of the road wheels.

The phrase snake oil comes to mind, you have been had big time.


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Re: IGL Kenzo Ceramic Coating

Post by JOCK55 » Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:32 am

Smitten wrote:
Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:27 am
Looks absolutely stunning. You must be delighted. Interesting comment about the original paintwork condition. Was that damage caused by the dealer or at the factory I wonder...dealer most likely. I have heard that Jaguar use relatively soft paint finishes compared to German and Swedish car makers so perhaps this is the issue.
I saw the damage to the paintwork, which must have been done at the factory. It looked as though there had been a fault in the original clear coat and this had then been poorly repaired. There were 3 patches, one on the bonnet, one on passenger front door and another on near side rear wing. It looked as though dust grit had stuck to the clear coat and had just been blown over with another coat. This was compounded by the thick layer of polish applied by the dealers valeters. I was called to come and see for myself as the detailer was going to suggest that the car was rejected for the quality of the paintwork. However, he persevered and managed to get it out without going so deep that it was damage on top of damage. The paintwork on JLR vehicles is considerably softer than many others (particularly VAG and Volvo vehicles). I have experienced problems with JLR (and particularly Lode Lane manufactured vehicles) in the past. Just poor quality QA/QC.

Fixed now and I am happy with the work and there was nothing fraudulent going on with the detailer.

Jock
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Re: IGL Kenzo Ceramic Coating

Post by JOCK55 » Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:33 am

MRB wrote:
Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:43 am
"I have never seen such a poor finish on a new vehicle....... ever!" Really???

He would say that wouldn't he your the poor sucker paying £800 to have your car polished!

Sorry mate but if you really believe that a liquid from a bottle is going to seriously protect your paintwork you are mistaken. A good machine buffing and a coat of Swiss wax or similar would have been just as good if not better and the price certainly no more that £150 and possibly another £50 for the removal of the road wheels.

The phrase snake oil comes to mind, you have been had big time.
Thank you for your constructive comment. I shall take this into account the next time I make a purchase of goods or services.

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Re: IGL Kenzo Ceramic Coating

Post by Smitten » Mon Sep 24, 2018 1:08 pm

JOCK55 wrote:
Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:32 am
Smitten wrote:
Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:27 am
Looks absolutely stunning. You must be delighted. Interesting comment about the original paintwork condition. Was that damage caused by the dealer or at the factory I wonder...dealer most likely. I have heard that Jaguar use relatively soft paint finishes compared to German and Swedish car makers so perhaps this is the issue.
I saw the damage to the paintwork, which must have been done at the factory. It looked as though there had been a fault in the original clear coat and this had then been poorly repaired. There were 3 patches, one on the bonnet, one on passenger front door and another on near side rear wing. It looked as though dust grit had stuck to the clear coat and had just been blown over with another coat. This was compounded by the thick layer of polish applied by the dealers valeters. I was called to come and see for myself as the detailer was going to suggest that the car was rejected for the quality of the paintwork. However, he persevered and managed to get it out without going so deep that it was damage on top of damage. The paintwork on JLR vehicles is considerably softer than many others (particularly VAG and Volvo vehicles). I have experienced problems with JLR (and particularly Lode Lane manufactured vehicles) in the past. Just poor quality QA/QC.

Fixed now and I am happy with the work and there was nothing fraudulent going on with the detailer.

Jock
Actually I had a small blemish on my drivers door I spotted first time I washed the car. Looked like a blob of dust that had been over painted. It came out with a DA polisher but that was from the factory come to think of it...

I haven't coated my car but did contemplate it but I am happy with maintaining the finish myself for now.
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