wax after 7 months or polish plus protect or nothing...

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Smitten
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Re: wax after 7 months or polish plus protect or nothing...

Post by Smitten » Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:36 pm

bensales wrote:
Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:45 pm
Smitten wrote:
Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:49 am
clay may well reveal some fine scratches in which case I will polish out with a DA polisher.
Clay won’t just reveal some swirls, it’ll cause them as well. Never clay unless you’re going to polish as well.

Menzerna 3800 brings JLR black paint up a treat as a finishing polish after compounding or a polish with more cut.

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Stunning level of finish! Here is mine..

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June16
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Re: wax after 7 months or polish plus protect or nothing...

Post by June16 » Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:10 pm

Smitten wrote:
Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:36 pm
bensales wrote:
Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:45 pm
Smitten wrote:
Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:49 am
clay may well reveal some fine scratches in which case I will polish out with a DA polisher.
Clay won’t just reveal some swirls, it’ll cause them as well. Never clay unless you’re going to polish as well.

Menzerna 3800 brings JLR black paint up a treat as a finishing polish after compounding or a polish with more cut.

3812DB15-A02E-4929-852B-F57ACBDDDA2A.jpeg
Stunning level of finish! Here is mine..
Looks great!
Must admit I do like black cars, I had 6 black ones in a row before the current BRG.
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jagman2017
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Re: wax after 7 months or polish plus protect or nothing...

Post by jagman2017 » Sun Jul 08, 2018 2:36 am

My car was treated with Gtehcniq
Back in December and done around 4000 miles also
The car was treated in and out and still looks fantastic
Only need to wash and dry with microfiber cloth no wax ever.
Or at least as long as I will own the car it suggested coating will last 6-7 years
Took these photos Friday as having windscreen changed
So condition before works photos think coating over wax if far better and very easy to keep clean

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Re: wax after 7 months or polish plus protect or nothing...

Post by Smitten » Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:26 am

June 16 - black is like Marmite. Love it or hate it! My last car was silver and I was tempted by that colour and BRG after seeing colours in the flesh.

Jagman - I was tempted by Gtechnic but picked up a chip in the first few weeks which meant a small area being re sprayed on passenger door. I understand it can prove quite expensive if you need panels re coated? Decided to wait and see if can keep it looking good with traditional methods for now. Your car does look stunning though!
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Re: wax after 7 months or polish plus protect or nothing...

Post by bensales » Sun Jul 08, 2018 10:10 am

That’s the main disadvantage to any ceramiccoating. It’s a pain to fix even the most minor scratch. You can just polish out a scratch and re-wax. Any polishing will remove the coating and when you try and reapply you get an obvious patch. So you have to do the whole panel. Gets even worse if it’s one of the pro-only multi-year coatings as they’re expensive.

Despite the ease of maintenance touted by ceramic vendors (which I’m not convinced of, given the need for special shampoos and topper coats) I don’t think it’s really suitable for daily d over cars that will pick up the odd mark. Traditionally polishing techniques and wax are far more suitable for the home user to be able to maintain a car to a high standard, if a decent wash technique is used.
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Re: wax after 7 months or polish plus protect or nothing...

Post by dasa75 » Sun Jul 08, 2018 7:50 pm

update-once i turned up at my detailer he suggested a wash then a very minor clay bar application, followed by a hand polish with a creamy soft polish and a protectant coating(non ceramic) said to last about 5 to 6 months- all for 55 euros. Granted the clay bar was very minimally required and that the car was quite impeccable still since new but i still thought it was a very fair price. I think result is quite OK and it feels soooo smooth and glossy. He did tell me beforehand that the coating instead of wax would not add as much gloss bcoz wax=gloss while coating = protection. Thats fine though as can always add a wax coat after say couple of months to add shine.


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Re: wax after 7 months or polish plus protect or nothing...

Post by Smitten » Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:49 pm

bensales wrote:
Sun Jul 08, 2018 10:10 am
That’s the main disadvantage to any ceramiccoating. It’s a pain to fix even the most minor scratch. You can just polish out a scratch and re-wax. Any polishing will remove the coating and when you try and reapply you get an obvious patch. So you have to do the whole panel. Gets even worse if it’s one of the pro-only multi-year coatings as they’re expensive.

Despite the ease of maintenance touted by ceramic vendors (which I’m not convinced of, given the need for special shampoos and topper coats) I don’t think it’s really suitable for daily d over cars that will pick up the odd mark. Traditionally polishing techniques and wax are far more suitable for the home user to be able to maintain a car to a high standard, if a decent wash technique is used.
I am arriving at the same conclusion and it's not looking too bad with a decent shampoo and quick detail today. I can polish out any scratches and I have picked up a few already. Seems altogether more flexible and practical.

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Re: wax after 7 months or polish plus protect or nothing...

Post by corriescar66 » Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:48 pm

We'll all have our own opinions on this one...

I wasn't aware of ceramic coatings before this forum, and I was very sceptical, having seen the pathetic Supagard being applied by dealers, and a fan of a proper clean and polish.

I'm afraid they do work, very easy to keep clean and have given a lustrous shine consistently for the last 20 months.

I was shocked at the price they wanted initially to re-apply to the rear bumper after the dealer had made a mess of the colour coding, but negotiated down to a reasonable figure. Provided whoever is going to do bodywork rectification is aware it is coated, it shouldn't be much of a problem, but yes, unless you have a clean, dry garage to re-apply it yourself, it is a slight additional cost.

I don't have the time to spend 14 hours detailing a car any more, however rewarding (and short lived) the joy of seeing the shiny toy is...
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Re: wax after 7 months or polish plus protect or nothing...

Post by Mbadger77 » Wed Jul 25, 2018 7:19 am

18 months on from my ceramic coating it’s still coming up well with a 1 hr start to finish, foam, rinse, dry - done.

It had some swirls and few minor marks / scratches. I got some mobile guys to come out and they spent about 4 hrs giving it a proper going over, decontamination and re-application of the top up stuff and results were stunning.
The swirls and marks were all but gone with only minor work and still retaining the coating. Still working very well.
2 year old car now

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