Gap between rear seats & parcel shelf

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Tim W
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Re: Gap between rear seats & parcel shelf

Post by Tim W » Mon Dec 12, 2016 11:21 pm

DPE wrote:Just been out there :shock: it works !, but now have a big gap at the back :lol: :lol: still it was worth it for the laugh :)
What do you prefer, a bigger one at the front or at the rear? :D
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Re: Gap between rear seats & parcel shelf

Post by DPE » Mon Dec 12, 2016 11:32 pm

Too much of a good thing does you no good,.. so all I had to do was flip out the little flap on the back of the seats, all sorted.
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Re: Gap between rear seats & parcel shelf

Post by Apollya » Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:31 am

DPE wrote:Too much of a good thing does you no good,.. so all I had to do was flip out the little flap on the back of the seats, all sorted.
Can you post a pic of before vs after. :lol:
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Re: Gap between rear seats & parcel shelf

Post by Choirman » Tue May 09, 2017 8:46 pm

Just read all of the above as I had been wondering whether there was some 'cure' for what seemed a security concern. For those who think that people are making a mountain out of a mole hill, let me tell you the following:
I am sitting here reviewing the AutoGlass bill for replacing my Rear Windscreen which was smashed on Thursday night by two guys on a Moped in Central London. I had parked to pop into a shop on the way home and, returning, found them smashing the window and grabbing my briefcase which was in the rear COVERED BY THE REAR SHELF ! They had used a torch to look through and seen it through the gap between the rear seats and the parcel shelf. I had decided that this was the setting which probably gave the better security -- but I was obviously proved wrong.
If this can happen, when I have taken the best precautions that are available to me and the security is inadequate -- which it was -- surely Jaguar need to take some action. For all the rest of you, take heed of my experience !
Has anyone raised this with them and got any response ??
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Re: Gap between rear seats & parcel shelf

Post by DPE » Tue May 09, 2017 9:16 pm

Wow, this puts the issue on a new level. JLR should know about this. Then find a solution. It maybe a recall to fit an over riding flap to block the gap or an extra that can be purchased and fitted.
To leave this as it is can only be seen as bad after care for the customers that have committed to a purchase.
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Re: Gap between rear seats & parcel shelf

Post by corriescar66 » Fri May 12, 2017 10:46 pm

Choirman wrote:
Tue May 09, 2017 8:46 pm
Just read all of the above as I had been wondering whether there was some 'cure' for what seemed a security concern. For those who think that people are making a mountain out of a mole hill, let me tell you the following:
I am sitting here reviewing the AutoGlass bill for replacing my Rear Windscreen which was smashed on Thursday night by two guys on a Moped in Central London. I had parked to pop into a shop on the way home and, returning, found them smashing the window and grabbing my briefcase which was in the rear COVERED BY THE REAR SHELF ! They had used a torch to look through and seen it through the gap between the rear seats and the parcel shelf. I had decided that this was the setting which probably gave the better security -- but I was obviously proved wrong.
If this can happen, when I have taken the best precautions that are available to me and the security is inadequate -- which it was -- surely Jaguar need to take some action. For all the rest of you, take heed of my experience !
Has anyone raised this with them and got any response ??
Can I ask if you have privacy glass and/or was it dark/dusk?

I've tried to see into the boot via this gap, and to be honest cant see a thing.... Daylight or otherwise..


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Re: Gap between rear seats & parcel shelf

Post by Jim » Sat May 13, 2017 11:23 am

I don't have security glass and to be honest I can't see into my boot as it is dark in there compared to the surrounding ambient light.

I could see that it might be possible with a torch to see into the very back of the boot area through this slight but it would be impossible to see any more than that because the angles are all wrong, unless someone climbed on to the roof and I had the pano shade open then possibly they could see further, though it would be a lot easier and less suspicious to simply smash the back window and help ones self to the contents of the boot.

In about 2005 I had my car broken into in a football ground car park while watching the match, nothing visible as it was a Mazda RX 8 with a boot, about a dozen other cars were also broken into.

In the early 2000s in Hemel Hempstead I and a load of colleagues were having a social after work on a Friday evening along with a couple of other similar groups of people and when the first person left to go home, we had all only been there for about an hour, he came back in to inform us that all the cars towards the back of the car park had had their boots forced open and peoples laptop bags had all been stolen, luckily my car was at the front of the car park in full view of the pub entrance and anyone passing. Most of the cars at the time were saloon cars with no view into the boots at all, however the pub was frequently used by groups like ours on Friday evenings before people set off home and I suspect it was targeted along the same lines as when bank robbers are asked why they rob banks the answer is 'that's where the money is' :D

A few years earlier in Gillingham my car was parked outside the flat I had at the time in a small parking area and it and all the other cars had been broken into (again no view into the boot) and when I phoned the police to report the crime they explained that over 200 cars (so far reported) had been broken into over night in some form of criminal raid.

In the mid 80s I had my car broken in to while parked in Poole station car park while I went into London for the day on business, nothing visible as it was a saloon car.

Like the examples above I suspect most car break ins are probably just opportunistic and many of the break ins earn the thieves nothing of any value with the possible exception of the targeted raid on the car park in Hemel where it was a known location for business people to hang out and reasonable to assume they all had laptops in their boots.

My losses for all the above, a couple of pairs of sunglasses, music cassettes, music CDs, a dangley air freshner :shock: , and about £10-15ks worth of specialist test equipment (from the Gillingham raid) that was all serial number registered and probably not worth anything to the thief as trying to sell it on or have it calibrated would probably have meant a visit by the police!
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Re: Gap between rear seats & parcel shelf

Post by JLRnumber5 » Sat May 13, 2017 12:02 pm

I agree. I've tried to see in between the gap and you can only see a tiny sliver so I don't think it's a security risk.

I've also had my boot broken into on saloon cars. The worst being when my key was cloned on my M3 and they took £5k worth of camera equipment.
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Re: Gap between rear seats & parcel shelf

Post by Jagfpacejk » Sat May 13, 2017 11:38 pm

Sorry to read of your issues, it is a strange setup to have the gap but I guess Jaguar would say with the rear seat reclined the gap does not exist, wonder how long before your see on eBay a rear parcel shelf with a flap to cover this area, won't be long I am sure if there is a market for this.
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Re: Gap between rear seats & parcel shelf

Post by Choirman » Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:52 pm

sorry for delay in responding but couldn't access my account for some reason.

No, I don't have privacy glass installed and Yes, it was in the dark -- but streetlights around. Not sure why noone else has this issue as the gap I have is c 4 inches between back of rear seat and start of rear shelf. My rear seats do not recline.

Any other suggestions from anyone?
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