2.0l diesel 180ps AWD

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j33per
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Re: 2.0l diesel 180ps AWD

Post by j33per » Mon Oct 07, 2019 6:48 am

Have only had mine (MY 2018) for two weeks and have done motorway miles mainly. The vibration at around 1'650 RPM is clearly noticeable AND very annoying. Trouble is that I've already done 1'700 miles or so and therefore would not qualify for "Approved's" "30 DAY / 1,000 MILE CONDITIONAL CAR EXCHANGE AGREEMENT".

Not good!
2018 R-Sport 2.0D 180 AWD
1968 MB SL250

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Re: 2.0l diesel 180ps AWD

Post by Deltasierra » Mon Oct 07, 2019 9:35 am

Hi I had a MY 17 2.0D and had exactly the same vibration problem, that car was rejected and I bought a MY 3.0D and no problems, mpg on both cars was very similar at 35 - 36 mpg long term average. There are very few complaints on this site regarding MY 18 cars onwards (except ICTP related), it seems that early issues were addressed and modifications made.
New or S/H I think you will be OK with MY 18 cars onwards, built May 17 on, for comparison drive the 3.0 D it is a different animal.
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Re: 2.0l diesel 180ps AWD

Post by FXE » Tue Oct 08, 2019 9:25 am

I have an MY19 20d AWD and no vibration issues. I was between a used better specced MY18 S (the V6 diesel one) and a new MY19 20d and decided to go with the brand new MY19 as the cabin was a lot nicer and just felt more luxurious and up-class for some reason (more leather, suede headlining, etc). The V6 definitely had a different quieter rumble to it which I liked more and engine felt smoother but it just wasn't enough to make me shift that way. So far I have not regretted the decision even once.

On the highway, my MPG is around 40 and around town it is 25-ish. I'm very happy with it as I owned a petrol XE before and would get 12-15mpg in town and 35-ish on the highway which was good but since I also drive mostly short journeys, the city mpg is a lot more important to me. Of course, it depends heavily on how much throttle you use when accelerating as I could definitely be more economical in my driving. I also put a TDI-tuning chip on it so not sure how much that influences the numbers. I should also add that I've driven the car only about 3000 miles so far so I expect it to get a bit better still. I also use the app to remote start it usually 5-10 mins before I head off to get the cabin warmish.

I don't think there should be much difference between vibrations between 20d and 25d though as they share the same engines and the only difference is the turbo setup. I also test drove the 25d but I didn't notice much difference between them personally and I think you just might have had bad luck with the car you received.

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Re: 2.0l diesel 180ps AWD

Post by philmayfield » Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:06 am

We’ve had ours for two years and 20,000 miles and the the only problem was the auto stop/start failing which was rectified at the last, recent service. It will be needing new tyres soon though. Very pleased with it. In contrast our F Type has been to the dealership eight times in three years and 12,000miles so that has been replaced with a Mercedes which is a so much better car!

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Re: 2.0l diesel 180ps AWD

Post by matfpace » Mon Dec 30, 2019 11:52 am

I just bought a 2016 F-pace 2.0 180Ps diesel Portfolio Automatic AWD. When on low gear the car seems to struggle/fight a lot to pull and in the process throwing some high revs. This causes some loud noise and vibration in the steering. I can also see lot of smoke coming from the exhaust when this happens. I am very disappointed with this behavior as this doesnt feel luxury in an other wise very good overall performance.

The mileage which I am getting is around 35.00 (i.e if I drive on 67 MPH) on a motorway.

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Re: 2.0l diesel 180ps AWD

Post by KeithL » Mon Dec 30, 2019 1:18 pm

Mat,

You say in your other post that the F-Pace you test drove was smoother to drive than your 2016 model. This is certainly my experience driving (newer) loan F-Paces, and others on this Forum have confirmed this. The vibration issues were much reduced and better sound proofing made the whole driving experience better. You don't say which driving mode you use, but I often find myself using the paddle to drop a gear to help the car out when it is clearly struggling. It will use 2nd gear to pull away so I often use the paddle to drop to 1st if I need to get away sharpish as well.

You don't say what type of driving you do (around town or motorways, short or long) but I get just over 35 mpg on average (from fuel receipts, not the dash which reads 2 mpg too high) doing a mixture of short, around town journeys and longer motorways trips. On the motorway at 70 mph I expect to get about 45-50 mpg. Once, following Jayne in the Morris Traveller at 56 mph I touched 60 mpg.

Hope this helps.
2017 2.0 i4 Diesel (180PS) Auto AWD Portfolio in Indus Silver with ICTP

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Re: 2.0l diesel 180ps AWD

Post by Dan_Veluwe » Mon Dec 30, 2019 6:53 pm

matfpace wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2019 11:52 am
I just bought a 2016 F-pace 2.0 180Ps diesel Portfolio Automatic AWD. When on low gear the car seems to struggle/fight a lot to pull and in the process throwing some high revs. This causes some loud noise and vibration in the steering. I can also see lot of smoke coming from the exhaust when this happens. I am very disappointed with this behavior as this doesnt feel luxury in an other wise very good overall performance. The mileage which I am getting is around 35.00 (i.e if I drive on 67 MPH) on a motorway.
There were a lot of problems with the engenium diesels due to owners driving short distances only. There are even problems with dilution of the engine oil. What happens is that since the DPF does not achieve the temperature needed to regenerate, it gets extra fuel from the injectors , this is intended to burn in the DPF to clean it out. This means a bout 20 minutes running above 40mph WHEN WARM. But if you stop shortly after the cycle has started, the extra fuel ends up in the engine oil, and the DPF cloggs up. This reduces MPG and finally the whole DPF is solid and needs REPLACING [ the black clouds you get are an early message :? ].

Advise : Take the car out on a spin for about one hour. Try to do highway milage and run max speed for at least half an hour. Get your engine oil checked and REPLACE if diesel content is above 6% . Then, make every 5th or so trip, or at least every 2 weeks, a trip that heats up the engine and keeps it warm. I annex a document from the Discovery Sport forum [ all the engine problems https://www.discosportforums.co.uk/viewforum.php?f=17 ]. The annex comes from the subject '..2k bill...' .

Bottomline [really, read the annex] ; for this kind of use DO NOT BUY A DIESEL !!!

Screenshot_2019-08-02 Land Rover Discovery 2k bill Forum (2).png

FT jag ______ P300___UniAir ___4-cyl__ _300hp 400nm____ 8-) Ultra Bleu_[ 27 k]
FP jag ______25T____UniAir____4-cyl____250hp 365nm____ :P Loire Blue_[ 1.4 k]
AT BMW ___216i______________3-cyl____102hp 180nm____ :? Blue_2_____[ 36 k ]

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Re: 2.0l diesel 180ps AWD

Post by Smitten » Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:32 pm

I went to test drive an Evoque with my step daughter a week ago and the salesman repeatedly tried to convince her that a diesel would be fine for her short, stop start journeys around town. Indeed, there were no petrol demonstrators available at the dealership. I was aware of the oil dilution issue from here but how many other unsuspecting customers are having unsatisfactory products sold to them under false pretences? The guidance from JLR is pretty clear.
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Re: 2.0l diesel 180ps AWD

Post by j33per » Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:52 am

My MY2018 180 AWD is going in for a week on Monday. Taunton Jaguar has acknowledged the vibration problem which is very noticeable through the steering wheel. They're allegedly taking out the engine and gear box to try and ascertain where the problem is. Not holding my breath.
2018 R-Sport 2.0D 180 AWD
1968 MB SL250

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