All Season Tyre choice

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Jagrsport
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Re: All Season Tyre choice

Post by Jagrsport » Sun Dec 02, 2018 5:50 pm

Hi,

I also am a little put off the Michelines due to the low tread they come with from new. It’s not a complete deal breaker but I could do with some guidance as to how they fair on an F-Pace.

Much appreciated.


Jim
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Re: All Season Tyre choice

Post by Jim » Sun Dec 02, 2018 8:05 pm

The CrossContact LX Sport is a summer tyre not all season (European definition) see https://www.continental-tyres.co.uk/car ... t-lx-sport

Whereas the Michelin Cross Climate is an all season tyre see https://www.michelin.co.uk/tyres/michel ... eSegment=1
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Jagrsport
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Re: All Season Tyre choice

Post by Jagrsport » Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:40 pm

Thanks for clarifying that.

The dealership still advise the Continental as they have explained Jagaur recommend this tyre to elimainte the slippage issue that comes with the Pirelli.

My feeling is the Michelin should also eliminate the slippage but also perform better in winter conditions based on its certification. However, i have come across some reviews of the Cross Climates being a let down in snow rather than as advertised.

Does anyone have any first hand experience of the Michelin in snow using and F-Pace?

Thanks again for your replies and apologies for dragging this out.


Jagrsport
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Re: All Season Tyre choice

Post by Jagrsport » Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:58 pm

Moreover, having spoken to Jaguar UK, they have made it clear that although not using Jaguar recommended tyres does not invalidate the warranty but any issue found to be directly caused by the tyre itself will not be covered. I expressed this to the dealership and they seconded it.

Prior to this I was leaning towards the Michelin. This has once again left me torn.

Any related experience or advice would be much appreciated.


June16
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Re: All Season Tyre choice

Post by June16 » Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:10 pm

I’ve had Michelin cross climate on a Honda CRV through last years beast from the east and still on it it now. It survived well got everywhere it had too and passed a lot of other cars that were stuck. It did have the odd slip and spin on hard packed snow , but just needed care.

It’s great in summer , great in rain , ok in light to moderate snow but not so good on iced hard packed stuff.it is after all a half way house because having good summer properties takes away a little bit of its winter performance.

It really depends where you live and if you expect to do a lot of snow winter driving Or a lot of icy long distance trips.

The Michelin Cross Climate will be fine for 85% of the time . It is the best of the “All Weather” Tyres. But it’s not a full pure winter even though it is three peaks stamped and therefore cannot match the performance of a full winter, this can be seen on tyre tests. It tails off when the going gets really tuff and temp goes more negative.

The Continental Cross Contact LX sport is a summer tyre in the UK spec . I even checked this direct with Continental direct, so avoid that one for any snow.

I’ve put the recommended Continental TS850P winters on the Fpace , I pondered the Michelind Cross climates , but a move to the highlands made my decision easy. Down side I need to change my tyres twice a year .
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June16
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Re: All Season Tyre choice

Post by June16 » Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:25 pm

Worth a watch for all season tyres for 2018
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Jagrsport
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Re: All Season Tyre choice

Post by Jagrsport » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:24 am

Thank you for your reply. That is helpful.

I understand the Continental Cross Contact LX Sport is mud and snow rated. On previous Range Rover vehicles the Continental CrossContact has worked absolutely fine in snow but then that is coupled with permanent four wheel drive.

I feel the AWD drive may benefit from the Michelin. Still concerned about what Jaguar have mentioned warranty wise I must admit.

Anyone used the Continental Cross contact with and F-Pace in the snow ?

Once again, all replies very much appreciated.


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Re: All Season Tyre choice

Post by Jim » Mon Dec 03, 2018 12:36 pm

Jagrsport, I believe if the tyres you fit meet the spec in full (I.e. as per my Vredestein's matching the Pirelli 255/55 R19 111 W) then JLR can't have an opinion. They may recommend certain brands they have a deal with, in the same manner as they recommend using their dealer network for maintenance, but within the EU it is not enforceable as long as correct procedures and actions are performed by competent people.

If you think about it, the tyre marking system is designed to show tyres that meet a certain specification in terms of size, stiffness, speed, load capability, wear, noise, rolling resistance, etc. so that there is a level playing field for manufacturers. Otherwise I'm sure JLR would insist you only use JLR tyres, as would Mercedes, BMW, etc. insist you only use their tyres on their vehicles - as used to happen with servicing and warranty issues.
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Jagrsport
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Re: All Season Tyre choice

Post by Jagrsport » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:53 pm

Jim, thank you for your reply.

I have ordered the Michelin Cross Climate tyres. We shall see how they fair.

Again, all replies very much appreciated.


Jagrsport
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Re: All Season Tyre choice

Post by Jagrsport » Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:18 pm

I have gone for the Michelin Crossclimates. So far so good. The slippage experienced with the Pirelli P Zero tyres seems to have disappeared.

Let’s see how they fair throughout the winter.


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