Apple Carplay

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rpvidal
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Re: Apple Carplay

Post by rpvidal » Thu Nov 01, 2018 5:50 pm

June16 wrote:
Thu Nov 01, 2018 4:51 pm
rpvidal wrote:
Thu Nov 01, 2018 3:04 pm
June16 wrote:
Thu Nov 01, 2018 2:00 pm


Some cars not just JLR need the usb, it’s all dependant on whether blue tooth element is enabled by the car manufacturer.

No mention of Wi-fi needed in link below , but the dealer should know the requirements or , if you can’t get an answer I suggest you just email CRC and see if they can explain why .

viewtopic.php?f=11&t=4002&p=56535#p56566
Hi,

This is the official communication from JLR

https://media.jaguarlandrover.com/en-us ... r-vehicles

See paragraph that starts with "Smartphone pack....". That is my source for that info.
Yep but a lot of info in that article is incorrect, e.g voice for navigation was available since verosion 3 . My car came with the default 2.5 from the factory which didn’t have voice for navigation a simple update and it was there on 3 ( 17c), long before phase 4 or 18B or 18C.

The best thing to do if you have ICTP (not ICT) is contact customer services and ask them to clarify the requirements for you . There may well be a reason we are not aware of.

It very much also depends on your location/region too as to what is offered, when I bought ICTP it came with Apps, Wi-fi. Maybe in your location it didn’t.?
Yes, exactly what I did yesterday. But to be frankly sometimes I have the impression that I am bringing information to them and not the other way round. Last week I did a subscription in Topix to get some information and also trying to find some information here to be able to talk with them in a more precise terms and data.

Appreciate your help !


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Re: Apple Carplay

Post by June16 » Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:26 pm

rpvidal wrote:
Thu Nov 01, 2018 5:50 pm
June16 wrote:
Thu Nov 01, 2018 4:51 pm
rpvidal wrote:
Thu Nov 01, 2018 3:04 pm


Hi,

This is the official communication from JLR

https://media.jaguarlandrover.com/en-us ... r-vehicles

See paragraph that starts with "Smartphone pack....". That is my source for that info.
Yep but a lot of info in that article is incorrect, e.g voice for navigation was available since verosion 3 . My car came with the default 2.5 from the factory which didn’t have voice for navigation a simple update and it was there on 3 ( 17c), long before phase 4 or 18B or 18C.

The best thing to do if you have ICTP (not ICT) is contact customer services and ask them to clarify the requirements for you . There may well be a reason we are not aware of.

It very much also depends on your location/region too as to what is offered, when I bought ICTP it came with Apps, Wi-fi. Maybe in your location it didn’t.?
Yes, exactly what I did yesterday. But to be frankly sometimes I have the impression that I am bringing information to them and not the other way round. Last week I did a subscription in Topix to get some information and also trying to find some information here to be able to talk with them in a more precise terms and data.

Appreciate your help !
Hi
I had a search round and found this thread that may confirm that currently if you don’t have the SIM slot , you can’t have C.P./AA. Then someone says they have no SIM and got it installed !

https://disco5.co.uk/forum/thread1472-150.html
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Re: Apple Carplay

Post by rpvidal » Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:05 pm

June16 wrote:
Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:26 pm
rpvidal wrote:
Thu Nov 01, 2018 5:50 pm
June16 wrote:
Thu Nov 01, 2018 4:51 pm


Yep but a lot of info in that article is incorrect, e.g voice for navigation was available since verosion 3 . My car came with the default 2.5 from the factory which didn’t have voice for navigation a simple update and it was there on 3 ( 17c), long before phase 4 or 18B or 18C.

The best thing to do if you have ICTP (not ICT) is contact customer services and ask them to clarify the requirements for you . There may well be a reason we are not aware of.

It very much also depends on your location/region too as to what is offered, when I bought ICTP it came with Apps, Wi-fi. Maybe in your location it didn’t.?
Yes, exactly what I did yesterday. But to be frankly sometimes I have the impression that I am bringing information to them and not the other way round. Last week I did a subscription in Topix to get some information and also trying to find some information here to be able to talk with them in a more precise terms and data.

Appreciate your help !
Hi
I had a search round and found this thread that may confirm that currently if you don’t have the SIM slot , you can’t have C.P./AA. Then someone says they have no SIM and got it installed !

https://disco5.co.uk/forum/thread1472-150.html
Thanks a lot! That info will be very usefull for me... I can discuss with my dealer about those pictures showing the ACP working on a vehicle without Wifi (telematics modules, best saying).

Talk to you soon !


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Re: Apple Carplay

Post by hess23 » Mon Nov 05, 2018 11:40 am

I am in Australia and have a 2017 F Pace
I was told today that my head unit was too old for Car play despite having the 18c update.
I don’t have sim/wifi.

Devastated!


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Re: Apple Carplay

Post by June16 » Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:04 pm

A week in with car play,

Not sure what all the fuss is about tbh

I use voice most of the time

I ask it to play an artist
Car Play - it just starts playing said artis with no choice of what album .
In control - it nicely list my albums and ask which one

I give it an album name
Car play searches for ages unless you give it album then artis in that order
In control - searches quicker , gives choice play all or let’s you choose track

Car play you have to give it album then artist
In control you give it artist then album

Artwork
Car play - a big blur behind the track playing
ICTP - good quality album art

Phone calls
Same on both

Texts
Same on both

Initiating voice
Short press of voice button communicates with ICTP
Long press of button communicates with Siri and car play.
“Hey Siri “ has worked long before this update if your phone is near enough to listen to you


When you use the long press for Car Play Siri , you have to be quick , wait a couple of seconds and it’s gone.
When you use short press for ICTP , the voice waits for you to respond longer and then asks again if it hasn’t heard anything.

Glad I didn’t have to pay £200 for it , that’s all I can say .

ICTP system is far better for voice recognition on music and Navigation. Please keep it going JLR as in my opinion is Car Play sucks and is lacking in refinement.

I did notice after update to 18c , you have to be patient with the ICTP voice , I’ve gotten used to this on previous updates , it takes time to get used to or “ learn” as JLR call it your voice.

For those thinking the system is quicker , it’s not really , it still takes time to boot up and load your music etc , same with car play . The dealer said it ‘“appears” quicker , but underneath the quicker appearing graphics the same system is firing up in the background.

Give it patience on starting and all music appears just fine, try and rush it and you get albums with only 3 tracks on Car Play, in that case close car play reconnect and wait a bit.
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Re: Apple Carplay

Post by rpvidal » Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:35 pm

hess23 wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 11:40 am
I am in Australia and have a 2017 F Pace
I was told today that my head unit was too old for Car play despite having the 18c update.
I don’t have sim/wifi.

Devastated!
It is hard to believe that there is any difference between the hardware installed in your car than any other F-Pace. Keep the faith... JLR should be fixing things to release a new software version that covers previous models.


June16
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Re: Apple Carplay

Post by June16 » Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:19 pm

hess23 wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 11:40 am
I am in Australia and have a 2017 F Pace
I was told today that my head unit was too old for Car play despite having the 18c update.
I don’t have sim/wifi.

Devastated!
Yes sim/Wi-fi seems to be a pre-condition by some dealers for car play.
You could ask why this condition is set.

Model years 2017 should be OK to update though if they have sim and Wi-fi
MY18 Rsport 25t BRG , Ebony - Oyster, 18 way mem, Surround Cam, blis, ICTP, LED adaptive....etc


rpvidal
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Re: Apple Carplay

Post by rpvidal » Mon Nov 05, 2018 2:21 pm

This is something that I am refusing to believe... my F-PAce is a 2018 model with no telematics module. From my point of view there is no relation between Apple Carplay and that module. It is supposed to work with or without Wifi... makes no sense !


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Re: Apple Carplay

Post by redonebe » Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:52 am

Just got a call from the dealer that they can not install AC because i have no Wifi option. Thanks to this forum i already knew this but they were not aware. For once i wished i listened to my wife and choose for another BMW instead.

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Re: Apple Carplay

Post by Samal » Wed Dec 19, 2018 7:46 pm

I have 18C which was recently installed. AA and ACP are installed. I can only get ACP to work with cable attached. Should it work over Bluetooth and automatically connect when my iPhone 6s entrees the car? Thanks in advance. I’m going back to the dealer tomorrow as my squealing brakes have started again after 2 days!!
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