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Had a new car valet over the last 3 days.

Exceptional.

Car valeted inside and out. Full leather protection, carpet protection, glass coating, alloy protection and ? G-techniq ceramic light cerum.

Looks amazing.

All for £385 at JM valeting Solihull - would highly recommend. Dealer quoted (I think £467 for Supaguard) - well pleased

I've only posted this for anyone thinking of the same in the Solihull area. I have no connection to JM valeting.
 

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That's dirt cheap really. A normal valet is normally over £300 and I priced up a Gtech or gen3 glass coat whatever it was at £700 on its own.

Sounds good value
 

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Been quoted £500 for Gtechniq in Shrewsbury but given my schedule and there's it couldn't happen until a month after delivery so going for dealer option but negotiated down from 500 to 300.... Will probably get glass coat down at a year old....
 

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Hi catalyst, I'm thinking of having this done. How have you been recommended to wash the car afterwards and how frequently?
 

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+1 for any recommendations for similar in London SE.. think I read somewhere in Crawley.. car will be coming into Sevenoaks.

Did I also read somewhere that it was advised to get the dealers to not touch it and get it straight to the detailers?
 

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Hi catalyst, I'm thinking of having this done. How have you been recommended to wash the car afterwards and how frequently?
Hi carlo,

Post-operative instructions are:

Avoid using car washes or cheap hand washes as these often use techniques or products which can strip away waxes and/or sealants

Do not use ordinary household cleaners to remove dirt and residue

when washing the vehicle use a pressure washer to remove excess dirt or grime, then lightly hand-wash the car (preferably using the 2 bucket method) and a quality pH neutral car shampoo.

That's it, I hope this helps (common sense really) ;)
 

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Thanks catalyst. Just as well I didn't stock up on the bleach ;)
 

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catalyst said:
Had a new car valet over the last 3 days.

Exceptional.

Car valeted inside and out. Full leather protection, carpet protection, glass coating, alloy protection and ? G-techniq ceramic light cerum.

Looks amazing.

All for £385 at JM valeting Solihull - would highly recommend. Dealer quoted (I think £467 for Supaguard) - well pleased

I've only posted this for anyone thinking of the same in the Solihull area. I have no connection to JM valeting.
I am in solihull and have just had a call from the dealer. The dealer is spending more time trying to sell me supaguard than he did at helping me choose options for the vehicle (All they did was say we don't know as we haven't seen a car with that option yet)

They started at £900 for Supaguard, I then saw this post and said no I would go somewhere else, they have not come back offering it for £300!

If they can do it for £300, is the other £600 commission?!

Would you take the supaguard for £300 or go for the independent at a few quid more?
 

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That's a staggering drop in price!

It's one of those things where you need to have absolute faith that the Dealer will do it thoroughly, comprehensively and carefully. Personally, I would always wonder if they would do, especially after dropping to just a third of the initial quoted price. Something's got to give! It may not be such a good deal after all.

If it were me, I would take it to an independent specialist valet/detailer, their business reputation stands or falls by how good they are, whereas the cynic in me would say the Dealer just wants an easy commission from you to boost their margin. The profit percentages on additional stuff like this and insurances, etc., is way better for them than the percentages they get on selling cars.
 

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By all accounts the Supagard offered by the dealer is applied by them and so is only as good as the apprentice in the workshop, so I would pay a bit more and go to the specialist, I've had SG applied twice - (once paid for & once, after I said no thank you, applied for free) and I wouldn't bother again. Interested in the GTech, but don't think there is anywhere in my area. A good regular polish is just as good...
 

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I've gone against my Yorkshire tightness, and decided to have the dealer supergard. It's £399, but what the heck, I'm paying £45 k for a car so what's another £399. I'd only waste it on drink and loose women. (Errr, perhaps not)

I did debate about buying a kit off eBay for £20 or so and Do the job myself, but I can't be bothered, I just want to get in the car and drive. It has an awful lot of coffee shops and garden centres to visit.
 

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I think the dealer-applied Supaguard is a polymer sealant whereas Gtechniq and the like are ceramic sealants? I'm no expert but I'm led to believe that ceramic sealants are harder wearing than polymer sealants (which is still better than nothing.... But, let's be honest, not having a sealant applied isn't really going to make your car hugely worse off if you intend to wash it regularly with decent product!).

Having said that, I am paying £460 for a detailer to give my F-Pace the full Gtechniq treatment inside and out - reasons?

1) the cost is less than 1% of the purchase price of the car so I don't mind trying it out to see if it really is as good as claimed - if it is, then I can look forward to an easy-cleaning, super shiny F-Pace for a good few years
2) it's the detailer's livlihood and I know he will take a great deal of pride in the final finish - certainly much more so than any dealership back-room help will
3) it seems ceramic sealant is 'better' than polymer sealant (altho I'm happy to be corrected)

Taking all that into account, it's a no brainer for me to spend a little bit more than the dealer price for paint and upholstery sealant.
 

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catalyst said:
Had a new car valet over the last 3 days.

Exceptional.

Car valeted inside and out. Full leather protection, carpet protection, glass coating, alloy protection and ? G-techniq ceramic light cerum.

Looks amazing.

All for £385 at JM valeting Solihull - would highly recommend. Dealer quoted (I think £467 for Supaguard) - well pleased

I've only posted this for anyone thinking of the same in the Solihull area. I have no connection to JM valeting.
I am in solihull and have just had a call from the dealer. The dealer is spending more time trying to sell me supaguard than he did at helping me choose options for the vehicle (All they did was say we don't know as we haven't seen a car with that option yet)

They started at £900 for Supaguard, I then saw this post and said no I would go somewhere else, they have not come back offering it for £300!

If they can do it for £300, is the other £600 commission?!

Would you take the supaguard for £300 or go for the independent at a few quid more?
Hi, I'm not sure what the Supergard covers, but my job at JM valeting Solihull included new car Valet £240 plus exterior protection (Gtechniq cerum light ceramic coating £145 - Matt offered 3 options, the cheapest being £100). Matt also put on some alloy protection - they really do just powerwash clean. Glass protection - but don't allow it on your windscreen it's a mare with the wipers juddering (can't wait till it wears off!). Full leather and carpet protection - Matt even put stripes into the carpet like a new mown lawn - I think he's a bit OCD about valeting, but that's just what you need - Total bill was £385. I consider this a bargain. I went down twice when they were working on the car about something, they didn't know I was there and through the viewing window I could see Matt and his helper in a trance like state just going up and down the car with majorly impressive microfibre cloths. I just can't see the dealers doing this.
 

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Carlo said:
Hi catalyst, I'm thinking of having this done. How have you been recommended to wash the car afterwards and how frequently?
Hi carlo,

Post-operative instructions are:

Avoid using car washes or cheap hand washes as these often use techniques or products which can strip away waxes and/or sealants

Do not use ordinary household cleaners to remove dirt and residue

when washing the vehicle use a pressure washer to remove excess dirt or grime, then lightly hand-wash the car (preferably using the 2 bucket method) and a quality pH neutral car shampoo.

That's it, I hope this helps (common sense really) ;)
.......using a microfibre mitt or lambswool mitt, never a sponge. Don't use chamois leather to dry off the paintwork but use a microfibre drying towel lightly.

It sounds counterintuitive but it is actually the act of poor washing technique that inflicts most surface damage on paintwork by picking up tiny grit particles and swishing them around during the wash cycle. Better to wash less frequently but wash well.

Also, be careful with snow foam concentrates. They also can be harsh and strip sealant coatings or wax layers from the paintwork. The advice to power wash first, without snow foam, is probably best, then the two bucket method with a mitt, then a towel down to dry off.

Choose a nice day and enjoy!

Arianne
 
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