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Hi all

I had a bit if a surprise today when I was informed by the leasing company that my vehicle had been built and was in transit to the dealer.

As it happens I cannot take receipt of my F Pace until March 2017 when my company car is returned and I will begin receiving a monthly cash allowance.

I've just checked the date of the order (30th September) and today I was asked if I wanted delivery!

Does this surprise anyone? I thought there were long waiting lists?
 

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Sounds like a possibility. I'd be surprised someone chose the exact same spec as me (I've added aluminium gear shift paddles fur example) but maybe the slot to build became available?

Does anyone know when the registration plate is added? I'd obviously prefer a 2017 plate as I won't be taking the car until then.
 

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Sounds like a possibility. I'd be surprised someone chose the exact same spec as me (I've added aluminium gear shift paddles fur example) but maybe the slot to build became available?

Does anyone know when the registration plate is added? I'd obviously prefer a 2017 plate as I won't be taking the car until then.
It would be a miracle to have it built in 5 weeks to be honest with others still awaiting for theirs thats been on order months.
 

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I ordered early September and start build date wasn't until 5th Nov, and delivery ETA 23rd Dec

So maybe same spec car got canceled and you got in early.
 

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Plates are allocated by dealer unless you have private plate. 2016 build car supplied in March 17 will be a March 17 car.
 

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Individual component parts which form optional specification can have a disproportionately big delay on delivery lead times.

Folk may remember that I was, at one point in my indecisive life, going to have the 22" turbines. The dealer noted that Jaguar had informed him of a delay on cars with these silver / black rims and so recommended that we submit the order earlier.

And then I changed my mind and went for the silver / black double helix 22" rims. No such delay with them!

Dealer has managed to remain sane and hasn't yet started throwing things at me when I arrive but I have caused him a headache finding a workaround to the issue of having our car delivered too early.

So I guess what I am saying is that everyone's cars may have different lead times if affected by shortages or delays on optional elements.

Arianne
 

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Oh you didn't settle on silver 22" dble helix!!! For goodness sake I thought we had convinced you the black Matt gangster look was better!!!??? We are going to fall out my friend!! Was friend!!!
 

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Oh you didn't settle on silver 22" dble helix!!! For goodness sake I thought we had convinced you the black Matt gangster look was better!!!??? We are going to fall out my friend!! Was friend!!!
1 - 1 = 0 friends. There goes my last one :(

Arianne
 

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There is no "waiting list", it's a myth to increase desirability.

It is human nature to want something you believe is not readily available, great marketing until all becomes transparent. Unfortunately the residuals won't be great, a good way of checking depreciation is to compare leasing rates between desirable and less desirable vehicles. ;)
 

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Hmm, forgive me but have any of us ever really associated Jaguar with high residual values? They're not lead balloons but neither are they Porsche or Audi. I didn't order my F-Pace under any illusions about residuals. I ordered it as a passionate decision from the heart not from the head.

Furthermore, Jaguar need volume sales. Not volume sales in the conventional sense like Ford or Fiat. But they need higher volume of sales like other premium manufacturers. Tata have invested heavily, they have adopted an admirable hands-off approach to managing JLR (Tata are an amazing global player) but they'll want their RoI. The production lines have been ramped up dramatically and it feels like the teams have struggled a bit with the QA but there appears to be a QA overhaul in progress right now.

Here's an extract from an article I have been reading just these last few days from the US. Sums it up perfectly.

Best wishes, Arianne.

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Sales in October slip 5.9%, but 17.98 million SAAR strongest of the year

As auto-sales growth has slowed this year in the U.S., the biggest gainers have been smaller luxury brands with new SUV offerings. Exhibit A: Jaguar, the elegant British line known traditionally for its sports cars and sedans.

Jaguar is hardly alone in cashing in on the SUV craze. Sister brand Land Rover, which specializes in body-on-frame luxury utilities, is up 7.8 percent. Volvo, best known for its XC90 crossover, has increased sales 21 percent. And Tesla Motors Inc., which added the Model X electric crossover to its lineup this year, grew about 78 percent through September, according to Autodata's estimate. Tesla doesn't release monthly results.

"The winners you called out, they all have a truck component to their business," Mike Jackson, CEO of AutoNation Inc., said last week in an interview.

Those smaller brands with new SUV models are narrowing the sales gap -- at least a little bit -- with the top three brands, Mercedes-Benz, BMW and Toyota Motor Corp.'s Lexus., which have all contracted this year.

"If you take the Germans, at the end of the day they were car companies," said Jackson, a former sales executive with Mercedes-Benz USA. They've reacted as best they can to give consumers the SUVs that they want, but they also "need to reduce car production -- and that's tough."

Sales of Daimler AG's Mercedes luxury vehicles -- excluding work trucks and Smart cars -- slipped 0.4 percent through October to 277,863 -- expanding its lead over Lexus, which slid 4.7 percent to 260,996. BMW AG's namesake brand declined 9 percent to 254,150.

Last month, with two fewer selling days than October 2015, BMW sales dropped 18 percent, Lexus slid 6.2 percent and Mercedes declined just 1 percent. BMW's results exclude the company's Mini line.

Despite the setbacks, those brands remain far bigger than Jaguar and Land Rover, which together may top 100,000 U.S. sales this year for the first time since 2002. U.S. sales this year have advanced 93 percent at Jaguar.

Hands-off approach

Jaguar Land Rover is the heart of Mumbai-based Tata Motors, providing 82 percent of its sales and 86 percent of operating income. Tata, famous for its super-cheap Nano car, has mostly left the luxury-vehicle business in the hands of industry veterans and given them tremendous support, said Joe Eberhardt, head of Jaguar Land Rover's North American operations.

"They've been great stewards of the company of the brands," he said. "They understand the importance of brands, and they have let the management of Jaguar Land Rover do what's needed to compete in the market."

In addition to expanding the product line -- more announcements are coming, Eberhardt said -- Jaguar has gone after new customers with creative marketing. Its villain-themed Good to Be Bad ads have evolved into a British Intelligence motif with the latest offering, which features physicist Stephen Hawking.

The brand has also won over younger customers through its Art of Performance campaign, Eberhardt said, which puts potential customers into 2-minute action-film videos they can share online. Ninety percent of XE and F-Pace buyers are new to the brand, which now has 12 percent of customers under 35.

"They don't want to be talked to or communicated to," he said. "They want to be a part of the experience."

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Love the quote

"jaguar Land Rover is the heart of Mumbai-based Tata Motors, providing 82 percent of its sales and 86 percent of operating income. Tata, famous for its super-cheap Nano car"

Perhaps some of our tech has come out of the Nano car lol
 

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My dealer is still quoting February for orders today, so something somewhere doesn't match up
 

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^ each dealer has a fixed number of slots. Once they have filled their slots that's that unless they can do any deals with Jaguar or another dealer.

If your dealer has been selling lots of cars then they'll not have many slots left. If the dealer has had a lean spell then delivery would be a bit quicker.

Remember that the boys in the West Midlands are producing cars for the whole world (felt a Clarkson moment coming on there but just avoided it). Clearly demand is healthy in the US, the Australasian market came on stream a few months back and India in the last few weeks. I understand from listening to quotes from top brass at Jaguar that they think there has been a bit of a kick back on Jaguar sales in Europe since July, which they are attributing to an adverse reaction to the Referendum result.

Regards,

Arianne
 

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My comments were simply an observation not a criticism. I too purchased the F-Pace out of a liking for the brand and also I am proud to buy British. I am not interested in the nationality of those who provide the finance, the car is a British product through and through. It gave me great pleasure in getting rid of the Golf Gti and replacing it with the F-Pace, I now own 2 Jags! :D

Let us have a campaign to Buy British whenever possible.
 

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......and furthermore make it absolutely compulsory that they all be resplendent......BRITISH RACING GREEN
 
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