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Does anyone know if the FPace AWD system needs any routine maintenance?
Also looking on the online service history it looks like Jaguar schedule the auto transmission service at 10 years. Looking online ZF recommends every 5 years. I think I'll follow ZFs advice.
 

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ZF make the 8 automatic gearbox, it is used by several manufacturers and seems to do the job reliably, it is electronically controlled, beyond changing oil if needed I doubt JLR get involved.
The AWD system is not ZF, at some stage it will need maintenance, for that Jaguar guidance is needed, at the end of the day we will see what wears out first on high milage cars
 

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I have clocked up over 200,000 miles on 8 speed auto ZF gearboxes with not a single issue and only Jaguar recommended servicing. I did 100,000mls on my first 3.0D XF and 95000 on my second. Have now done 40,000 on my Fpace without issue (DV!). However, I always take out extended warranty if keeping longer than 3 years and always use Jaguar main dealers for servicing.
 

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A bit more info regarding the Fpace AWD system. The transfer box is a Haldex gen 5 unit (branded Borg Warner) the recommended oil change interval is 30k Km. The required oil is BorgWarner: 2000884.
The oil pump (part no 02T2H20181) has a mesh rather than a removable filter. This can be accessed for cleaning.
Hope this is of help.
 

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This is interesting " The transfer box is a Haldex gen 5 unit (branded Borg Warner) the recommended oil change interval is 30k Km. The required oil is BorgWarner: 2000884."
My car is booked for a Haldex pump replacement (under warranty) after 3.5 years and 73000 miles. The official diagnostic is "internal short »
But I am aware that the Haldex pumps on Évoque do not last (apparently due to lack of maintenance)
How can Jag expect transfer boxes & gearboxes to last if the maintenance interval recommended by the manufacturer of these (expensive parts) is not adhered to?
A gearbox generates more metal dust than an engine does. 10 years or 105,000 miles feels a very long time/distance
No Haldex pump oil change or filter cleanup is a recipe for failure (programmed obsolescence ?)
 

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With now using my Fpace for towing, I bit the bullet and ordered a genuine ZF auto transmission service kit from Autodoc for £188, (link https://www.autodoc.co.uk/zf-getriebe/8824048)
and had my trusted Mercedes/prestige specialist Autoelite Hull carry out the service and reset the transmission adaptive learning for £110.
Absolutely delighted with the improvement.
Mark
 

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Thought I'd change the transfer box oil today. On the F-Pace, access to the Haldex transfer box is much, much more difficult than the video of the Evoke unit as there's significant differences. There's many more obstructions that need to be removed to gain access, including the gearbox mounting bracket, so the entire transmission needs to be held up with a transmission jack while this bracket is removed. The oil pump is mounted at 90 degrees compared to the Evoke unit, incorporating its own small sump with its own drain and refill plugs. The main box also has separate drain and fill plugs on the front face. Once access is obtained, with a sizeable pile of removed bits on the floor, drain the upper (oil pump) and lower (main) sumps. The oil pump removal and screen cleaning is straightforward. Once the pump is refitted, refill both sumps using a large syringe and small tube. Fill until oil overflows from the filling holes. Upper sump takes about 200ml, lower sump holds about 575ml. Job took me almost 6 hours working slowly on a ramp (I'm a slow worker due to health).

Process:

Undertray off.
Small exhaust shield at rear of Haldex unit off.
Cable bracket off.
Transfer box NVH damper off (bend heat shield to allow removal as appropriate).
NVH damper bracket off.
Support gearbox/transfer box, remove Halex bush mounting bolt then remove gearbox mounting bracket.
Loosen upper and lower sump fill plugs.
Drain upper and lower sumps (use caution not to lose the sealing washers on the upper sump plugs).
Remove oil pump.
Clean oil pump strainer.
Refit oil pump.
Refill upper and lower sumps with fresh Haldex oil.
Refit all removed items in reverse order of removal.
Have a beer.

Old oil was fairly black and a quite gritty.
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Oil pump strainer wasn't anywhere near as bad as I was expecting though.
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Cleaned it anyway.
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The oil was definitely due a change, the car has done 34,000 miles. There no way this unit would survive 100,000 miles without an oil change, the grit and debris from the clutch friction material circulating in the oil, I am pretty sure, would destroy the oil pump.
 

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High mileage haldex units are failing so changing oil is good practice, it also applies to the ZF transmission at 60k + the oil is getting very tired and filters getting clogged so replacement is good idea.
 
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