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Driving an automatic F-Pace. Tips wanted

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#1 ·
After many years driving manual I have gone automatic with the F-Pace and my knowledge is a little rusty. Some opinions wanted on what you do at traffic lights, do you have the car in neutral, park or drive?
 
#2 ·
Hi
If it's a short stop I leave in drive with foot on brake, lights change just shift foot to accelerator.

If it's a long stop I switch it to Neutral and put on hand brake . Take foot off foot brake.
When lights changed orange, foot on brake, back to D and then drive off the EPB releases automatically .

I don't like blinding folks behind especially at nights with my brake lights.

I switch off stop start too every time I get in the car ...I hate it.
 
#5 ·
I ĺeave it in D as the F-pace has a couple of nice features that our Disco4 did too - very noticeable when upgrading from our Disco3.

In our Disco3 I would always slip it into neutral at lights to save the torque converter dragging and trying to make you creep forward. Disco4 and F-Pace recognise you are stopped with the brakes on, and selects neutral itself (without any message to you) to do thd same thing. It re-engages drive as you slip your foot off the brake pedal.

Unless you are on a hill. In which case it holds the brake on (hill assist) to allow your foot time to move over to the accelerator, and releases the brake as you take up the drive.

Both are nice touches, so i tend to just leave it in D and let it do its thang.
 
#9 ·
The Highway Code
Rule 114

You MUST NOT

use any lights in a way which would dazzle or cause discomfort to other road users, including pedestrians, cyclists and horse riders
use front or rear fog lights unless visibility is seriously reduced. You MUST switch them off when visibility improves to avoid dazzling other road users (see Rule 226).

In stationary queues of traffic, drivers should apply the parking brake and, once the following traffic has stopped, take their foot off the footbrake to deactivate the vehicle brake lights. This will minimise glare to road users behind until the traffic moves again.
Law RVLR reg 27
 
#10 ·
June16 said:
The Highway Code
Rule 114

You MUST NOT

use any lights in a way which would dazzle or cause discomfort to other road users, including pedestrians, cyclists and horse riders
use front or rear fog lights unless visibility is seriously reduced. You MUST switch them off when visibility improves to avoid dazzling other road users (see Rule 226).

In stationary queues of traffic, drivers should apply the parking brake and, once the following traffic has stopped, take their foot off the footbrake to deactivate the vehicle brake lights. This will minimise glare to road users behind until the traffic moves again.
Law RVLR reg 27
So going by that do you switch off your headlights then as when sitting in traffic at night the car behind headlights at times when at the right angle can either dazzle me or cause me discomfort via the wing mirrors or rear view mirror?

As many above have stated, foot on brake, leave in drive and then move away once clear. ;)

Not saying this is right, just what 99% of drivers do.
 
#11 ·
The issue of headlights should not blind you if correctly set, yes there's quite a lot aren't correctly set.Guess that's why anti glare mirrors are now becoming the norm.

I suppose it all depends if you want to respect your fellow motorists or not, it's not so important during the day , but at night and in rain it really is inconsiderate.

The other ( slim ) chance of when your perhaps behind it from behind with just your foot on the brake , the bodies natural reaction is to lift your feet (seen with crash test dummies ) , so you may do more damage to the the car/ obstical/ person in front not having the handbrake on .
 
#12 ·
June16 said:
The issue of headlights should not blind you if correctly set, yes there's quite a lot aren't correctly set.Guess that's why anti glare mirrors are now becoming the norm.

I suppose it all depends if you want to respect your fellow motorists or not, it's not so important during the day , but at night and in rain it really is inconsiderate.

The other ( slim ) chance of when your perhaps behind it from behind with just your foot on the brake , the bodies natural reaction is to lift your feet (seen with crash test dummies ) , so you may do more damage to the the car/ obstical/ person in front not having the handbrake on .
Perhaps they should look at Volkswagen solution to this, when you come to a complete stop your see on the dash a green foot break light, this means the car has applied automatically the breaks and will not release the break until you press the accelerator pedal, this stops as you mention above taking you foot off the break and moving.
 
#13 ·
Jagfpacejk said:
June16 said:
The issue of headlights should not blind you if correctly set, yes there's quite a lot aren't correctly set.Guess that's why anti glare mirrors are now becoming the norm.

I suppose it all depends if you want to respect your fellow motorists or not, it's not so important during the day , but at night and in rain it really is inconsiderate.

The other ( slim ) chance of when your perhaps behind it from behind with just your foot on the brake , the bodies natural reaction is to lift your feet (seen with crash test dummies ) , so you may do more damage to the the car/ obstical/ person in front not having the handbrake on .
Perhaps they should look at Volkswagen solution to this, when you come to a complete stop your see on the dash a green foot break light, this means the car has applied automatically the breaks and will not release the break until you press the accelerator pedal, this stops as you mention above taking you foot off the break and moving.
Yes some cars have a "hard press" on foot brake applies hand brake, technology is the way forward.

I think what ever way folks choose , the important thing is to do it repetitively, it then becomes natural in a very short time.
 
#14 ·
June16 said:
Jagfpacejk said:
June16 said:
The issue of headlights should not blind you if correctly set, yes there's quite a lot aren't correctly set.Guess that's why anti glare mirrors are now becoming the norm.

I suppose it all depends if you want to respect your fellow motorists or not, it's not so important during the day , but at night and in rain it really is inconsiderate.

The other ( slim ) chance of when your perhaps behind it from behind with just your foot on the brake , the bodies natural reaction is to lift your feet (seen with crash test dummies ) , so you may do more damage to the the car/ obstical/ person in front not having the handbrake on .
Perhaps they should look at Volkswagen solution to this, when you come to a complete stop your see on the dash a green foot break light, this means the car has applied automatically the breaks and will not release the break until you press the accelerator pedal, this stops as you mention above taking you foot off the break and moving.
Yes some cars have a "hard press" on foot brake applies hand brake, technology is the way forward.

I think what ever way folks choose , the important thing is to do it repetitively, it then becomes natural in a very short time.
No hard press, just stop wait for the green indication on dash, take foot off.

No press hard or harder required. ;)
 
#15 ·
Jagfpacejk said:
June16 said:
Jagfpacejk said:
Perhaps they should look at Volkswagen solution to this, when you come to a complete stop your see on the dash a green foot break light, this means the car has applied automatically the breaks and will not release the break until you press the accelerator pedal, this stops as you mention above taking you foot off the break and moving.
Yes some cars have a "hard press" on foot brake applies hand brake, technology is the way forward.

I think what ever way folks choose , the important thing is to do it repetitively, it then becomes natural in a very short time.
No hard press, just stop wait for the green indication on dash, take foot off.

No press hard or harder required. ;)
Different technologies for different manufacturers.
Back to the Original post, as you can see there are several ways to achieve the same thing, it's very much what you feel comfortable doing.
 
#17 ·
billwright said:
In a previous life, as an advanced police driver, we were always told to leave it in D.

The occasion will come when you rush to pull away when still in N, and rev the engine instead.
That's probably more to do with the nature of the job than saving fuel, or following the letter of the law.... :shock:

A while ago I followed a police Discovery for eight miles... did about 40 in a 30 mph, then did just over 30 in a 40 zone. Never indicated once over 3 roundabouts & two turns,, dawdling along, enjoying the Sunday morning chatting to each other, then pulled off into a petrol station, again without indicating.

As more and more misdemeanours mounted up I contemplated making a citizen's arrest...
 
#18 ·
mik said:
I ĺeave it in D as the F-pace has a couple of nice features that our Disco4 did too - very noticeable when upgrading from our Disco3.

In our Disco3 I would always slip it into neutral at lights to save the torque converter dragging and trying to make you creep forward. Disco4 and F-Pace recognise you are stopped with the brakes on, and selects neutral itself (without any message to you) to do thd same thing. It re-engages drive as you slip your foot off the brake pedal.

Unless you are on a hill. In which case it holds the brake on (hill assist) to allow your foot time to move over to the accelerator, and releases the brake as you take up the drive.

Both are nice touches, so i tend to just leave it in D and let it do its thang.
I hadn't noticed that at all but checked it out today, it will creep until you come to a dead stop when it engages neutral, then back into drive when you take your foot off brake, nice.
 
#19 ·
Deltasierra said:
mik said:
I ĺeave it in D as the F-pace has a couple of nice features that our Disco4 did too - very noticeable when upgrading from our Disco3.

In our Disco3 I would always slip it into neutral at lights to save the torque converter dragging and trying to make you creep forward. Disco4 and F-Pace recognise you are stopped with the brakes on, and selects neutral itself (without any message to you) to do thd same thing. It re-engages drive as you slip your foot off the brake pedal.

Unless you are on a hill. In which case it holds the brake on (hill assist) to allow your foot time to move over to the accelerator, and releases the brake as you take up the drive.

Both are nice touches, so i tend to just leave it in D and let it do its thang.
I hadn't noticed that at all but checked it out today, it will creep until you come to a dead stop when it engages neutral, then back into drive when you take your foot off brake, nice.
I reckon it only goes into neutral, when fully stationary, about 40-50% of the time..

Next time you're at some lights, put it in neutral & see if you can feel the drive disengaging... If you feel nothing then it is in neutral, otherwise.....
 
#20 ·
40-50%, not sure about that, but then like all FPaces not always entirely logical, that seems to be the personality of the car.
 
#21 ·
Deltasierra said:
40-50%, not sure about that, but then like all FPaces not always entirely logical, that seems to be the personality of the car.
I always put it in neutral at traffic lights and I can assure you that on mine, more often than not, you feel the drive disengaging......

It's become a habit for me over the years, so not really a problem for me if it does, or doesn't do it automatically (so to speak!)
 
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