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GVE Detailing West London - Great Service!!

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#1 ·
Morning all

Had my F -Pace detailed last week (4 days to complete) and I am amazed by the results.
I completed the Gtechniq quote and who put me in touch with GVE.

Check out the pics and video from their website.

http://www.gvedetailing.com/jaguar-f-pace-ceramic-coating

Cian, who carried out the work in the link, used to work for the McLaren finishing team and has a wealth of knowledge on the subject.
If you live in the area I would certainly pay them a visit as they also sell luxury cars.
They have a Ferrari F40 on sale for around £925k if anyone's interested.....

Anyway, after a few days of rain, my car looks better than it did on the day I collected from the dealers.

Cheers!
 
#3 ·
FPTrevor said:
What was the cost ?
£775+VAT which comes with 7 year guarantee on the paint protection.
The same as the Gtechniq configuration price on their website. Check it out. GVE will honour the cost of the quote from the Gtechniq site.
If you're unsure, Cian is happy to answer questions and show you around in person if you just drop by. They are in Uxbridge. UB8 2DB
 
#4 ·
V6 - good timing. I was asking if there were any good detailers in the west London area and this is just the ticket.

I'll check them out. I've already had mine done 6 months ago but I've swirl marked the bugger already (my own naive fault) and picked up a light tree branch scratch so I think I'm going to get it all done again and the wheels this time.
My interior is new as well so might as well get that done.

Thanks
 
#5 ·
MyV6Jag said:
FPTrevor said:
What was the cost ?
£775+VAT which comes with 7 year guarantee on the paint protection.
The same as the Gtechniq configuration price on their website. Check it out. GVE will honour the cost of the quote from the Gtechniq site.
If you're unsure, Cian is happy to answer questions and show you around in person if you just drop by. They are in Uxbridge. UB8 2DB
Are you serious £775 plus VAT??? What exactly is the 7 year guarantee? At best it is a protective coating on top of the existing 2 pack finish. Of course the water runs off, it would do exactly that with a good quality wax. As for the glass again nothing but nothing can protect the windscreen.

Sorry but to me it's money down the drain!
 
#6 ·
Gtechniq is as good as it gets for paint protection in my mind. Best product out there - especially the Crystal Serum with the EXO hydrophobic top coat.

Money well spent if you want you vehicle to stay looking its best for quite a few years with minimum effort!
 
#7 ·
ES1 said:
MyV6Jag said:
FPTrevor said:
What was the cost ?
£775+VAT which comes with 7 year guarantee on the paint protection.
The same as the Gtechniq configuration price on their website. Check it out. GVE will honour the cost of the quote from the Gtechniq site.
If you're unsure, Cian is happy to answer questions and show you around in person if you just drop by. They are in Uxbridge. UB8 2DB
Are you serious £775 plus VAT??? What exactly is the 7 year guarantee? At best it is a protective coating on top of the existing 2 pack finish. Of course the water runs off, it would do exactly that with a good quality wax. As for the glass again nothing but nothing can protect the windscreen.

Sorry but to me it's money down the drain!
Agree easy to think that but it truly is a great finish. I had mine done not to that level for £500 odd and well worth it (even though it was done as a quick job at a BMW dealers !) It's nothing like a good wax and lasts a lot longer. Washing is a dream and up it pops gleaming like new with not much effort.
Does offer decent protection as well. I stupidly though have swirl marked the car by washing with a sponge several times but it still comes up great,
I will be going here and getting the car re detailed and pay the money again but get the wheels done this time as well.

It's all about what's important to you and what your prepared to spend money on. I've seen the effects and will happily spend a grand to get it done.
 
#8 ·
ES1 said:
MyV6Jag said:
FPTrevor said:
What was the cost ?
£775+VAT which comes with 7 year guarantee on the paint protection.
The same as the Gtechniq configuration price on their website. Check it out. GVE will honour the cost of the quote from the Gtechniq site.
If you're unsure, Cian is happy to answer questions and show you around in person if you just drop by. They are in Uxbridge. UB8 2DB
Are you serious £775 plus VAT??? What exactly is the 7 year guarantee? At best it is a protective coating on top of the existing 2 pack finish. Of course the water runs off, it would do exactly that with a good quality wax. As for the glass again nothing but nothing can protect the windscreen.

Sorry but to me it's money down the drain!
Hi ES!

I'm afraid Im another big convert to GTecniq detailing despite the price. I have a Porker which has had a full detailing valet and a professionally applied carnuba wax. Cost was about £250-£300 total.. It looks awesome but that car is platinum silver and permanently garaged. When it came to the Jag I spoke to my detailer (Bradley) who said without hesitation that Ceramic coasting would be a godsend and how right he was. 6 months on dirt hardly sticks to the car and water beads off as it should for the next 7 years and its sits on the drive in all weathers. It cost me £700 including interior / glass and wheels all coated. I'm delighted.

Everyones entitled to their view and if it appears emperors clothes to you thats fine. I have always had my cars professionally cleaned and waxed previously now I would always go the Gtecniq route. They look great and are protected from day too day scratching which is quite an issue for most new cars but particularly Jags as they have notoriously soft paint.
 
#9 ·
I've just watched the video - very slick (as you would expect with a promotional vid). Bad boy sound track!

I'm impressed with the amount of prep work and coatings/layers.

I take receipt of my vehicle on Wednesday and it will be in the Heathrow area so I should probably drop by and get a quote from them?

I like the idea of protecting the interior from spills too. I have two kids now. (On arrived on Monday!!)
 
#10 ·
Firstly congrats johnnyzander on the new arrival

Regards detailers - I've no reason to doubt GVE's ability - MyV6Jags car looked awesome after its detailing.

My chap Bradley of Concourse Detailing ( Just South of M4 at Reading) charged me £700 incl vat for exactly the same coatings as GVE provided MyV6Jag and this included glass interior and wheel protection coatings.

I know others have gone to him and been delighted but I'm not on any kickbacks just saying there are always other options
 
#11 ·
Thanks Mike - we have similar vehicle configurations (except you have an extra 120bhp)

I am assuming you meant the 'new arrival' of my baby and not my first Jaguar? Haha

Did you get interior and exterior inc. glass and wheels for £700?
 
#12 ·
Jonnyzander said:
Thanks Mike - we have similar vehicle configurations (except you have an extra 120bhp)

I am assuming you meant the 'new arrival' of my baby and not my first Jaguar? Haha

Did you get interior and exterior inc. glass and wheels for £700?
Yep all for £700 inc VAT.

If the location works speak to Bradley see if you like him

Good luck with all new editions!!
 
#13 ·
Sorry but it rally is total BS, or the Emperor's new clothes as one blogger suggested being polite!

No coating applied from a tin or a bottle can protect the paint for seven years, that is why the manufacturer applies a clear coat which is cured in a high bake oven. You would be lucky if any product lasts more than 3 months.

As for applying coatings to the windscreen, that takes the biscuit, glass doesn't deteriorate and it really does not require a water resistant coating. OK I know aircraft have a coating applied to bead the water but it has to be re applied every time the screen is cleaned. It's called Rain X and is fairly inexpensive, I believe Halfords sell it.

As for interior protection you cannot beat Scotch Guard, it again has been around for years and is the best option for protecting carpet & interior items.

All this fancy named product is just smoke & mirrors, save your money and either do it yourself or get a pro to do it for no more than £150.
 
#14 ·
ES1 said:
Sorry but it rally is total BS, or the Emperor's new clothes as one blogger suggested being polite!

No coating applied from a tin or a bottle can protect the paint for seven years, that is why the manufacturer applies a clear coat which is cured in a high bake oven. You would be lucky if any product lasts more than 3 months.

As for applying coatings to the windscreen, that takes the biscuit, glass doesn't deteriorate and it really does not require a water resistant coating. OK I know aircraft have a coating applied to bead the water but it has to be re applied every time the screen is cleaned. It's called Rain X and is fairly inexpensive, I believe Halfords sell it.

As for interior protection you cannot beat Scotch Guard, it again has been around for years and is the best option for protecting carpet & interior items.

All this fancy named product is just smoke & mirrors, save your money and either do it yourself or get a pro to do it for no more than £150.
I was the one being polite ES1 because I didn't want to say that your previous statements on detailing are wrong and misleading to others.

I have no affiliation to any detailing company but I currently own one car that has no paint protection, two that are waxed and one that is ceramic coated and the difference in glossy appearance, ease of cleaning, continued water beading between the FPace (ceramic coated) and the others is huge.

Basically Ceramic Coatings do add significant protection to the underlying paint. They are normally applied as an under layer of 6/7h ( based on the pencil hardness test) and a top layer of 8/9h. This not only protects the car from scratching but also chemicals ph2 to ph13. So yes it won't stop 10molar acids or alkalis wrecking the paint but it will stop the corrosive power of bird poo marking the paint.

Both layers are applied covering a small section at a time and then the whole car is left to cure / harden overnight. Depending on what combination of undercoat and top coat and what product manufacturer you use = length of guarantee. Yes guarantee. I have used GTechniq products Crystal Serum base and EXO top and I have a 7 year guarantee meaning that should the car be damaged tree sap, bug splatter, bird droppings or the sun's harmful UV rays, Gtechniq will repair and retreat the damaged area at no cost to me.

These products are very expensive so the bulk of the cost is the product. Think of it like applying nail polish to your entire car.

Clearly the end result is down to the applicator but I haven't seen one person on here who has been unhappy with their detailing experience. Instead just search detailer on this forum and look at how many people are delighted with the results / shared photos at the time and subsequently. Mine is 6 months old and the black paint stays remarkably dirt free, is easy to clean and still beads when it rains. For all future cars I purchase; I will apply ceramic coating unless the day comes that I can afford a garage big enough to house my cars rather than leave all bar one on my drive.

As I say Im not wedded to one product supplier but for those trying to decide I would suggest looking at gtechniq.com and talking to several detailers to see what is best for you and your car based on where you keep it, where its driven and your attitude to car cleaning.

As always - In the land of the blind the one eyed man is king
 
#16 ·
blackjagmike said:
Basically Ceramic Coatings do add significant protection to the underlying paint. They are normally applied as an under layer of 6/7h ( based on the pencil hardness test) and a top layer of 8/9h. This not only protects the car from scratching but also chemicals ph2 to ph13. So yes it won't stop 10molar acids or alkalis wrecking the paint but it will stop the corrosive power of bird poo marking the paint.

Both layers are applied covering a small section at a time and then the whole car is left to cure / harden overnight. Depending on what combination of undercoat and top coat and what product manufacturer you use = length of guarantee. Yes guarantee. I have used GTechniq products Crystal Serum base and EXO top and I have a 7 year guarantee meaning that should the car be damaged tree sap, bug splatter, bird droppings or the sun's harmful UV rays, Gtechniq will repair and retreat the damaged area at no cost to me.
I still remain a little unconvinced blackjagmike. but this is my view and I am very careful how I spend my hard earned cash, making sure I research, read reviews and I believe completely understand what I am buying. I like to think I'm the type opting often for quality over quantity if i know it'll serve me longer. My opinion should not affect anyone else' as it is an opinion and I encourage anyone to make their own opinion as that is what really matters, if YOU are happy with your decision or not.

Now for my comments:
I read what you say about 2< Ph > 12. It's worth noting that...
Ph 2 = Citric acid (Lemon Juice), acetic acid (vinegar)
Ph 1 = Gastric /Stomach acid
Ph 0 = Battery Acid, hydrofluoric acid, hydrochloric acid, sulphuric acid etc.

Also highly worth noting that hydrofluoric acid is used in many car cleaning solutions as it's cheap and very effective at stripping the grime especially from alloy wheels. I'd triple check it's not in any GTechniq cleaning products, if I were to consider it, otherwise could be doing more damage than good by taking off layers of paint before applying the shine chemical and finally laquer layer.http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1226086X12001189

I found an MSDS for GTechniq G1, it's basically Propan-2-Ol (an alcohol which predominantly will evaporate, but is known to be used in some industrial cleaning products - so I can see it's use in their products)
http://www.gtechniq.com.au/upFiles/g1_MSDS.pdf

Sadly, In my searches I found no creditable, peer reviewed research, with facts and basis in regards to Car detailing. in fact I I found none at all on the either of the first two search pages (i didn't look any further). All i saw was a lot of web pages from car detailing companies, filled with what looked to me like marketing. I must point out that the claims could of course be true and upheld after research, but I look for more than just statements. It might just be the research has not been peer-reviewed and published.

I certainly don't want to be a downer or dissuade other forum members, in any way, it's up to you all how you spend your hard earn cash, but in my mind and opinion it's a case of show me the data.
 
#17 ·
Sometimes I just think that some forum members need to be checked into a Swiss Finishing School. I know it's a motoring forum and we don't want to live in the land of PC, but a bit of thought, tact and diplomacy might elicit a better debate and dialogue?

For sure, let's debate the merits or otherwise of car paint protection systems, or premium fuels, or Ingenium vs V6 engines and whether any of this stuff has a deeper meaning for the owners' life purpose and background.....

...... but we don't need to go for the jugular right from the first line of the post :roll:

Join a forum, settle in, make some virtual acquaintances and then add some variety, provocation, humour and richness to the banter. But engage brain before deploying keyboard - whatever the truth might be about the topic under discussion.

Honestly!

Arianne
 
#18 ·
Arianne said:
Sometimes I just think that some forum members need to be checked into a Swiss Finishing School. I know it's a motoring forum and we don't want to live in the land of PC, but a bit of thought, tact and diplomacy might elicit a better debate and dialogue?
As always fair response Arianne, not sure if it related to my comment, but in any case I'll re-read my post and will edit to reflect personal choice more right from the start.
 
#19 ·
It would be interesting to see some test. I've seen a few which aren't lab driven over 3 and 6 months but there are a few key facts

A coating is created and the paint is made thicker by each layer. I saw some test where they used a thickness tester that showed it a few microns thicker after each layer was applied so this is a barrier and a protection of sorts regardless.

The paint is resistant to PH etc and NO guarantee is fully effective if you don't look after it and remove bird poo within reasonable time - leaving on for a month won't do you any favours.

Another fact is it makes the car MUCH easier and faster to clean so if you like saving time and with just a quick wash and rinse / dry it looks gleaming like you did a 2/3 hour job in maybe 40 mins then that's worth a lot to me.
Actually I'd rather pay somebody else to,wash it but not ready for all the swirls marks or leaving to chance with this car. I quite like doing it myself now it's so quick.

If you don't wash it properly or use the right products then it won't last 7 years like new BUT it will last a long time.
I've had it on 6 months in autumn winter so it's taken a battering and a quick wash and up it pops like a mirror gloss dream just like day 1 when I had it done.

Claims may be exaggerated or a "best case" scenario but it's certainly a product that does a very nice job and I think it's worth the money for me. I have never used anything like this before and always either got somebody to wash my car or all the usual car cleaning autoglym products and waxes .
I find this product far superior and much less effort, (I've not got Grechniq by the way so no plug)
I think their FAQ page seems balanced and reasonable as well and no super wild claims.
http://gtechniq.com/customer-service/faq/
They also say it's resistant to PH levels not impervious :)
 
#20 ·
Hi Apollo

Yes you are right to point out it is important what you put on your car afterwards in terms of car maintenance so as not to degrade the coating. As my car had gtechniq coating I stick to their car wash and bug remover both of which are ph neutral. Ive posted the Material Safety Data Sheets below

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1BRMgSw56lpUUNBV1pKNEEzbFE/view
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1BRMgSw56lpY19KTUE4Q3lFT0E/view

As I said in my previous posts I believe the value of these products is mainly in protecting the paintwork, from bird poo / UV / tree sap etc as well as making it easier to clean as dirt sticks less and washes off readily.

Whilst I have had the glass and insides done I'm less evangelical about this as my seats are black and I have grown up kids so the days of spilt food / mucky hands and travel sickness are thankfully behind me. I opted to get them done as it was negligible cost.

FYI The G1 you refer to is one of the glass coatinsg and is not applied to any of the paintwork. If you wish to cast your eye over the paintwork products the ones I have had applied I would genuinely love to hear your opinion (to see if the science backs up my practical ownership experience):

Ceramic Coating Crystal Serum Black
http://gtechniq.com/products/auto/perfect/exterior/paint/crystal-serum

EXO Hydrophobic Coating
http://gtechniq.com/products/auto/exo-ultra-durable-hydrophobic-coating

For me what matters is I can walk onto my drive and despite it being the largest and darkest colour of my cars it is by far the most glossy and picks up far less dirt than the others which means I or someone else has to clean it less frequently. Happy days.
 
#21 ·
Apollya said:
Arianne said:
Sometimes I just think that some forum members need to be checked into a Swiss Finishing School. I know it's a motoring forum and we don't want to live in the land of PC, but a bit of thought, tact and diplomacy might elicit a better debate and dialogue?
As always fair response Arianne, not sure if it related to my comment, but in any case I'll re-read my post and will edit to reflect personal choice more right from the start.
Actually, no it wasn't. Have a nice weekend Apollya, good having you on the forum.

Arianne
 
#22 ·
Apollya said:
Arianne said:
Sometimes I just think that some forum members need to be checked into a Swiss Finishing School. I know it's a motoring forum and we don't want to live in the land of PC, but a bit of thought, tact and diplomacy might elicit a better debate and dialogue?
As always fair response Arianne, not sure if it related to my comment, but in any case I'll re-read my post and will edit to reflect personal choice more right from the start.
No Apollya - Always keen to learn.

My first degree was Electrical/Electronic Eng but only did a proper Eng job for a few years before moving in a more Sales/Marketing direction. Loved Chemistry back in the day and if I could live several parallel lives a Chem Eng working/running some complex production process in a nice part of the world would be one of them I'd choose.

So as I requested if you get chance please peruse the MSDS of the paint protection products I used to see how much of my perception is backed by real science!
 
#23 ·
blackjagmike said:
Your posts are great Apollya - Always keen to learn.

My first degree was Electrical/Electronic Eng but only did a proper Eng job for a few years before moving in a more Sales/Marketing direction. Loved Chemistry back in the day and if I could live several parallel lives a Chem Eng working/running some complex production process in a nice part of the world would be one of them I'd choose.

So as I requested if you get chance please peruse the MSDS of the paint protection products I used to see how much is real and how much is marketing!
I found that MSDS quite easily and without actually searching for them, I'll see if I can pull up others and review them here. By law if selling the products (chemicals) to other business they are required to provide an MSDS, so might be able to dig them out.
 
#24 ·
So what can I expect from my free Lifetime Shine Autoglym guarantee, not having to ever wash my car again? Yeeeeh job done and more time for driving and forum visits.
As a Metallurgist of 42 years, I just have a wry smile on issues of hardness, corrosion , longevity of coatings on materials etc. Sometimes it is best just to sit back and watch the debate, whether people are right, wrong ,confused or all of these.
 
#26 ·
Spoke to them the other day and have to say very impressed with the amount of work it seems like they do and attention to detail. I think it will be cleaner than when I picked up from showroom by the sounds of it.
Also they have a mobile maintenance wash service and a pickup service of the car.
I've booked in for a full correction and detail. I've ruined mine with swirl marks after using a sponge and not been too careful with the lower car dirt etc.
 
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