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#1 ·
The Pirelli P Zero 255 55 R19 111W tyres are coming to the end of their life on my MY2017 F-Pace Portfollio.

I am looking for new tyres and want to buy All Season tyres to replace the current summer tyres.

Unfortunately the choice of all season tyres in 255 55 R19 111W is not huge and after looking for some time I have found these:

Vredestein Quatrac 5 255 55 R19 111W XL

Are these suitable for my car and are there any that JLR would recommend as equally or more suitable than these?

I would have preferred Michelin tyres, however I don't believe they do an all season tyre in my size!

Forum members please chime in if you have an experience of these (Vredestein) or other tyres.
 
#52 ·
JAGFlubster said:
I asked jaguar customer relations which winter and all season tyres are approved for my 20" wheels.

The answer was the the pirelli scorpions and the Conti ts850p. They don't approve any all seasons. I will probably go for the continentals.

June. Who supplied yours? I see oponeo are selling them for 222 each.

Flub!
Got my 850p from Lancaster Reading .
 
#53 ·
Oponeo were the cheapest with free delivery as I got them for £219 per tyre delivered to a local tyre fitting service. On line they were around £260 from other suppliers.
 
#54 ·
June16 said:
JAGFlubster said:
I asked jaguar customer relations which winter and all season tyres are approved for my 20" wheels.

The answer was the the pirelli scorpions and the Conti ts850p. They don't approve any all seasons. I will probably go for the continentals.

June. Who supplied yours? I see oponeo are selling them for 222 each.

Flub!
Got my 850p from Lancaster Reading .
Marshalls Didcot said that they didn't have any in stock. Did you get a decent price from Lancaster?

Flub!
 
#55 ·
Markotley said:
Oponeo were the cheapest with free delivery as I got them for £219 per tyre delivered to a local tyre fitting service. On line they were around £260 from other suppliers.
That's probably the option I will go with.

Thanks

Flub!
 
#56 ·
JAGFlubster said:
June16 said:
JAGFlubster said:
I asked jaguar customer relations which winter and all season tyres are approved for my 20" wheels.

The answer was the the pirelli scorpions and the Conti ts850p. They don't approve any all seasons. I will probably go for the continentals.

June. Who supplied yours? I see oponeo are selling them for 222 each.

Flub!
Got my 850p from Lancaster Reading .
Marshalls Didcot said that they didn't have any in stock. Did you get a decent price from Lancaster?

Flub!
Yes , but after a lot of grief in the process, due to no stock and just fitting Pirelli's thinking I wouldn't notice.
https://www.fpaceforums.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=4269

£812 fitted. Plus full car valley inside and out :roll:
Next time local tyre fitter fir me!
 
#57 ·
Hi, just wondering if anyone has had any experience of using their Jaguar F-Pace with Continental Cross Contact LX Sport tyres in the snow ?

Also, anyone with any experience of using the Michelin Cross Climate SUV tyres in the snow ?

I'm trying to decide the best all season tyre to fit for winter.

Regards
Jagrsport
 
#58 ·
Jagrsport said:
Hi, just wondering if anyone has had any experience of using their Jaguar F-Pace with Continental Cross Contact LX Sport tyres in the snow ?

Also, anyone with any experience of using the Michelin Cross Climate SUV tyres in the snow ?

I'm trying to decide the best all season tyre to fit for winter.

Regards
Jagrsport
Hi Jagrsport, welcome.

I've moved your post into an existing thread which has discussed winter/all season tyres at some length. Suggest you take a look back through this thread as it may provide you with some insight and save others who've already posted from having to repeat themselves. I had Michelin Cross Climates on my previous Evoque and found them to be a very good all round solution, plenty of grip in winter conditions and not too noisy . . also handled well in warmer, drier summer conditions too. So I would expect they would perform well for the FP too, if you can find them in the right size for your rims.
 
#59 ·
Jagrsport said:
Hi, just wondering if anyone has had any experience of using their Jaguar F-Pace with Continental Cross Contact LX Sport tyres in the snow ?

Also, anyone with any experience of using the Michelin Cross Climate SUV tyres in the snow ?

I'm trying to decide the best all season tyre to fit for winter.

Regards
Jagrsport
I had Conti cross contact on my 2.0D F pace they are good in light snow and light off-road much better than summer tyres that cars gone
There was a set with 18 in rims advertised so bought them which are now on my 3.0D Portfolio in comparison to the Sport tyres previously they are more flexible so smoother ride and are quieter. They have the M&S rating but no snowflake, obviously no substitute for full winter tyres but in lowland England will get me home.
 
#60 ·
Hi,

thank you for your replies, much appreciated.

The Michelin Cross Climates are available in the size I require 255/55/19 but I am still torn as to which ones to go for. The Continental Cross contact LX Sport is the Jaguar rated tyre but I'm not so sure how it would fair in 'beast from the east' weather that we had earlier this year.

Any further advice would be appreciated. Many thanks again.
 
#62 ·
#63 ·
Thanks for clarifying that.

The dealership still advise the Continental as they have explained Jagaur recommend this tyre to elimainte the slippage issue that comes with the Pirelli.

My feeling is the Michelin should also eliminate the slippage but also perform better in winter conditions based on its certification. However, i have come across some reviews of the Cross Climates being a let down in snow rather than as advertised.

Does anyone have any first hand experience of the Michelin in snow using and F-Pace?

Thanks again for your replies and apologies for dragging this out.
 
#64 ·
Moreover, having spoken to Jaguar UK, they have made it clear that although not using Jaguar recommended tyres does not invalidate the warranty but any issue found to be directly caused by the tyre itself will not be covered. I expressed this to the dealership and they seconded it.

Prior to this I was leaning towards the Michelin. This has once again left me torn.

Any related experience or advice would be much appreciated.
 
#65 ·
I've had Michelin cross climate on a Honda CRV through last years beast from the east and still on it it now. It survived well got everywhere it had too and passed a lot of other cars that were stuck. It did have the odd slip and spin on hard packed snow , but just needed care.

It's great in summer , great in rain , ok in light to moderate snow but not so good on iced hard packed stuff.it is after all a half way house because having good summer properties takes away a little bit of its winter performance.

It really depends where you live and if you expect to do a lot of snow winter driving Or a lot of icy long distance trips.

The Michelin Cross Climate will be fine for 85% of the time . It is the best of the "All Weather" Tyres. But it's not a full pure winter even though it is three peaks stamped and therefore cannot match the performance of a full winter, this can be seen on tyre tests. It tails off when the going gets really tuff and temp goes more negative.

The Continental Cross Contact LX sport is a summer tyre in the UK spec . I even checked this direct with Continental direct, so avoid that one for any snow.

I've put the recommended Continental TS850P winters on the Fpace , I pondered the Michelind Cross climates , but a move to the highlands made my decision easy. Down side I need to change my tyres twice a year .
 
#67 ·
Thank you for your reply. That is helpful.

I understand the Continental Cross Contact LX Sport is mud and snow rated. On previous Range Rover vehicles the Continental CrossContact has worked absolutely fine in snow but then that is coupled with permanent four wheel drive.

I feel the AWD drive may benefit from the Michelin. Still concerned about what Jaguar have mentioned warranty wise I must admit.

Anyone used the Continental Cross contact with and F-Pace in the snow ?

Once again, all replies very much appreciated.
 
#68 ·
Jagrsport, I believe if the tyres you fit meet the spec in full (I.e. as per my Vredestein's matching the Pirelli 255/55 R19 111 W) then JLR can't have an opinion. They may recommend certain brands they have a deal with, in the same manner as they recommend using their dealer network for maintenance, but within the EU it is not enforceable as long as correct procedures and actions are performed by competent people.

If you think about it, the tyre marking system is designed to show tyres that meet a certain specification in terms of size, stiffness, speed, load capability, wear, noise, rolling resistance, etc. so that there is a level playing field for manufacturers. Otherwise I'm sure JLR would insist you only use JLR tyres, as would Mercedes, BMW, etc. insist you only use their tyres on their vehicles - as used to happen with servicing and warranty issues.
 
#71 ·
Jagrsport said:
I have gone for the Michelin Crossclimates. So far so good. The slippage experienced with the Pirelli P Zero tyres seems to have disappeared.

Let's see how they fair throughout the winter.
Please do let others know how the tyres work out.

The Michelin CrossClimate's are what I would have bought had they been available when I swapped mine, as I have always had good experiences with Michelin tyres.
 
#72 ·
I've put Pirelli Scorpian Verde All Season put on mine.
Original Rears replaced after 26.6k and fronts at 32.5k miles
No signs of skipping.
 
#73 ·
Just bought a full set of Michelin cross climates 255 55 19 W111, replacing the original Pirelli P zeros. What a difference. Quieter, better ride, yet to try on snow, but with the the three peaks snow rated should be a great help in the snow when it comes.
Crabbing gone, the Pirellis were so bad in the cold.... Was off road-accidentally-last Feb, two days in a ditch, till pulled out.
Peace of mind, and hopefully well worth the Blackcircles price.
 
#74 ·
Have been following this topic with interest. Have just completed a 100 mile journey (mainly motorway) in temperatures below 7deg C ( see photo) on Pirelli Zero tyres and did not notice any difference in performance. The F-Pace handled brilliantly as usual. Conditions were dry throughout. Is it mainly in the wet below 7deg C where forum members have experienced problems? What characteristics have manifested themselves? Your comments as always appreciated.
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#75 ·
We seem to have virtually identical cars and I have never noticed any drop-off in performance in cold weather. After reading various comments on this forum it sometimes makes me wonder how I've managed to be accident free for the last 40 years without winter tyres.
 
#76 ·
You wont notice any drop off in performance unless you are trying to use all of the performance they are capable of delivering in warmer temperatures. Cornering, accelerating or braking.

Rubber gets harder as it cools. Not a theory. The "winter tyres better below 7DegC" is a sweeping generalisation though - some summer tyres can find grip even close to zero Deg. The Michelin Pilot Supersports I have on my own car become like bars of soap below 5DegC though....
 
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